meeting_2007-03-20

Meeting with Polderland 20.3.2007

Participants:

  • Peter Beinema
  • Sjur Moshagen

Agenda

  • Since last time
  • Possible issues
  • Next meeting
  • Todo items for the next meeting

Since last time

Polderland:

  • windows installer: check if executable winzip version will run setup.exe automatically
    • fell of the radar (forgot to copy it to TODO list last week) - will check immediately
  • send all files + instructions to create mac .pkg/.pax installer
    • prepared, will be sent today
  • check: does the Adobe hyphenator differentiate between "word boundary" (strong) hyphenation points and "word internal" (weak) ones?
    • does not appear to have it, not 100 % sure yet
  • setup-text for windows installer: does language chosen refer to installer interface, or to language to be installed?
    • installer interface language
  • installer for windows: should be multi-lingual for Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, English, N.Sami and L.Sami. Check which installshield version we need
    • checked, problematic: haven't found yet where to include Sami installer texts + Sami language names in installer drop-down lists (Sami locales w.r.t. language codes etc were added in XP SP2) will continue investigation

Divvun:

  • fixed the problem with converting verbal derivations to the PLX format, now all verbs are converted in less than an hour
  • compiling with Gb sources for the first time - it seems to be working fine, but there are some compilation messages we don't understand, see below
    • are informative messages: intermediate compression (mem boundary reached)
  • working on integrating the whole speller making, PLX conversion etc. in the make file
  • working on updating the Lule Sámi conversion to be as good as the North Sámi
  • tried to make version info easter egg - no success, see below

Possible issues

Updating installer packages

We (ie Divvun) can now easily compile our own speller lexicons - thanks for the tools: -)

But we also need to place that speller lexicon file over the old one within the installation packages. For that I assume we need the original installation package script (or whatever it is called), and for Win we also - I assume - need the software used to create the installer? (the corresponding software is included on the Mac, as part of the developer tools).

The tools used:

  • Windows: InstallShield + small executable asking for the language to install
  • Mac: Apple Installer tool

Lexicon compilation:

With a full-size verb lexicon (2Gb in all now), I got the following messages when I compiled it:

Reading dictionary 'tmp/lex-sort.plx'...
at line 8937146: 'vars-su-huv-vo-goa-[111]e-det-tii-nis', compress...
at line 14418531: 'speal-la-alm-m[e1]j-huht-to[161]-goa-[111][e1]-[161]it', compress...
at line 19547140: 'sad-djo-hast-te-[17e]at', compress...
at line 28152191: 'oa-[111][e1]-hal-lo[161]-goa-[111][e1]-[161]ed-jen', compress...
at line 35285592: 'l[e1]v-go-lih-te-huht-to-goa-[111]i-ha', compress...
at line 44009984: 'ie[161]-alm-m[e1]j-huht-to-juv-vo-det-tii-neat-te', compress...
at line 51507083: 'gieh-ta-hearg-gi-huht-to-juv-vo-leid-de', compress...
at line 55472103: 'ex-pe-de-re-has-to-goa-[111]i-det-tii-neat-te', compress...
at line 64245660: 'buoh-kait-rievt-ti-huht-to-[161]eim-me', compress...
Compressing dictionary...
Dumping dictionary...

Is this just messages that everything is going ok, or something to worry about? (notice the non-UTF-8 output)

It is nothing to worry about, it is just telling that it has reached the upper memory limit, and needs to compress what it has, before it continues.

Speller lexicon version ID

We planned some sort of easter egg of the type:

nuvvid -> Divvun Speller Lexicon 13.3.2007 Made by the Divvun team: ...

But it doesn't work. Presently I have the following code:

In the lexicon:
Divvun	NI
SjurMoshagen	NI
Version1b02-200307

Phon-rules:
/$Divvun<=>nuvvi$D/         twin
/$Sjur$Moshagen<=>nuvvi$D/         twin
/$Version1b02-200307<=>nuvvi$D/	twin
  • PLD: will get back on this (can we include spaces? if not, underscores?)

Next meeting

Next Tuesday (27.3.) at the usual time.

TODO:

  • check handling of lines by test software: lines starting with non-alpha skipped? cf. types-err-sme.txt: first 7 lines skipped
    • yes, skipped. Can force suggestions by starting with a ",". not sure if "," solution will work for non-alpha word initials
  • check: does the Adobe hyphenator differentiate between "word boundary" (strong) hyphenation points and "word internal" (weak) ones? - under investigation
  • send all files for mac installer + instructions - will be sent today
  • installer for windows: should be multi-lingual for Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, English, N.Sami and L.Sami. Check which installshield version we need - working on it
  • check: installer on Mac should be able to (PLD to check):
    • move existing proofing tools out of the way (into a zip archive?)
    • restore "original" proofing tools on deinstallation
      • yes, but some residues remain after de-installation.
      • solution probably requires admin rights - will document
  • check if Sami-codes are included in Office 2008 / Mac (when beta arrives with codes) (Polderland)
  • try to find proper compiler version for Adobe Indesign (old version will probably do) (Polderland)
  • send speller lexicon (or CVS tag) for the beta release to Polderland ( Sjur)
 
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